Park
S$7.96 per sqft a month, achieved shop rent9,496 taps a working day at this corner’s stops
The published record for this corner: measured numbers with their receipts, named absences where the record is empty. No scores, no forecasts, nothing invented.
the band is the island’s middle half; the mark is this corner
ihow this figure was read
- n=9
- 9 awarded tenders stand behind this figure: each a signed tenancy at its stated rent.
- the two ends
- lowest–highest awarded tender pooled here; the tick is their median, and the ends are not quartiles
- source
- hdb.tender.awarded-psm.shop:carried · measured at subzone grain · :carried = aggregated up from finer measurements (streets, postals, doors) into this grain, never a direct reading at it · bids closed 2026-03-12, the oldest part bids closed 2025-11-04 · the day bids closed on the newest of the 9 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-11-04. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it · an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays · built from 9 of 12 sources known in this subzone (75%): a FLOOR, not a census
5 rent readings measured here do not lead this card: not shop space
The app draws this corner’s buildings, shows it on the island map, checks a rent you were quoted against this record and runs your own numbers.
Open Park in the app →This page never scores a door and never predicts a business. You know your margin, staffing and opex; we publish what the ground measures. (The one number that pretended to score was withdrawn on 2026-08-05.)
Every receipt for this corner ↓ What this issurface written 2026-10-12. Every figure on this page is read from that one file
Park: every published receipt
How to read a row: the bold figure is the middle of its range and the figures either side are the range’s ends; “carried” means aggregated up from finer measurements (streets, postals, doors) into this corner, never a direct reading at it. The n is the count behind the figure: contracts, awards, units or taps, by instrument. An absent row carries a code and a side, never an instrument or a date, because nothing was measured. Every rent row was measured per square metre a month by its publisher (URA’s street medians, HDB’s awards over their printed floor area, the portals’ asks) and is printed here per square foot, divided once by this record’s own bridge of 10.76 sqft per sqm.
singstat.ghs2025.C020123 · subzone grain
NOT A MEASUREMENT: residents by dwelling (C020125) ÷ the NATIONAL average household size for that dwelling type (17863, 2025), CALIBRATED by the planning area's own published/derived household ratio (C020141) where the area publishes one. The divide alone ran ~9% low with a measured per-area spread; the calibration applies the reconciliation instead of merely reporting it.
ghs2025.residents-div-hhsize · subzone grain
not_published: withheld or not published at source. GHS 2025 C020148 publishes no workplace figure for this planning area — small workforces are not itemised, and an unpublished area is never a workforce of zero. The no-fixed-location (201,500) and work-from-home (82,200) categories also sit outside every area, so even the published figures are floors.
a census: all 12 sources known in this subzone answered
an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays
HDB restricted no trade. NOT a synonym for "an ordinary shop": the stratum holds anchor-lease tails
hdb.tender.awarded-rent.shop:carried · subzone grain · 2026-03-12 is the day bids closed on the newest of the 12 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-06-03. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it
built from 9 of 12 sources known in this subzone (75%): a FLOOR, not a census
an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays
HDB restricted no trade. NOT a synonym for "an ordinary shop": the stratum holds anchor-lease tails
hdb.tender.awarded-psm.shop:carried · subzone grain · 2026-03-12 is the day bids closed on the newest of the 9 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-11-04. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it
a census: all 1 sources known in this subzone answered
an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays
the publisher's own facet types this row "medical-clinic", which is not shop space. Measured over every per-sqm rent in this artifact, the median of the 804 shopfront rows sits at 0.5x the median of the 8 rows typed "medical-clinic". Two markets, and this one is not the shop market. The figure is real for what it measures and it is not what a shop costs here
hdb.tender.awarded-rent.clinic:carried · subzone grain · 2025-11-04 is the day bids closed on HDB's tender for this unit: the one date both tender files give every row, awarded or not; the award itself is dated nowhere in them, and this is not the day the notice was read and not the day the tenant opened
a census: all 1 sources known in this subzone answered
an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays
the publisher's own facet types this row "medical-clinic", which is not shop space. Measured over every per-sqm rent in this artifact, the median of the 804 shopfront rows sits at 0.5x the median of the 8 rows typed "medical-clinic". Two markets, and this one is not the shop market. The figure is real for what it measures and it is not what a shop costs here
hdb.tender.awarded-psm.clinic:carried · subzone grain · 2025-11-04 is the day bids closed on HDB's tender for this unit: the one date both tender files give every row, awarded or not; the award itself is dated nowhere in them, and this is not the day the notice was read and not the day the tenant opened
a census: all 18 sources known in this subzone answered
an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays
HDB restricted no trade. NOT a synonym for "an ordinary shop": the stratum holds anchor-lease tails
this is a basement-floor row. The shop-rent slot is led by street-level space; a basement unit is a different market at the same address (at Parc Point the basement median runs 2.4x the ground one), so it prints here with its floor named rather than standing in for a shopfront
hdb.tender.awarded-rent.shop:carried · subzone grain · 2026-07-15 is the day bids closed on the newest of the 18 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-02-18. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it
built from 10 of 18 sources known in this subzone (56%): a FLOOR, not a census
an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays
HDB restricted no trade. NOT a synonym for "an ordinary shop": the stratum holds anchor-lease tails
this is a basement-floor row. The shop-rent slot is led by street-level space; a basement unit is a different market at the same address (at Parc Point the basement median runs 2.4x the ground one), so it prints here with its floor named rather than standing in for a shopfront
hdb.tender.awarded-psm.shop:carried · subzone grain · 2026-07-15 is the day bids closed on the newest of the 10 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-08-14. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it
a census: all 8 sources known in this subzone answered
an awarded tender: achieved, and the WINNING bid. It is the top of its own bid distribution by construction, so it reads high of what a sitting tenant pays
HDB restricted no trade. NOT a synonym for "an ordinary shop": the stratum holds anchor-lease tails
this is a upper-floor row. The shop-rent slot is led by street-level space; a upper unit is a different market at the same address (at Parc Point the basement median runs 2.4x the ground one), so it prints here with its floor named rather than standing in for a shopfront
hdb.tender.awarded-rent.shop:carried · subzone grain · 2025-06-17 is the day bids closed on the newest of the 8 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-02-18. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it
a census: all 1 sources known in this subzone answered
hdb.sublet.block-median:carried · subzone grain · 2025-10-31 is the last day of the newest month in which HDB approved a sublet counted here. The figure is the median of every approved contract in the cell, so this is the newest month the median covers and not a day any particular flat was let
suppressed_at_source: withheld or not published at source. This corner is placed: all of its 31 geocoded postals sit in District 24. URA's PMI shop-space table stamps NO median anywhere in District 24: 16 cells across 4 floor levels were asked for and every one came back empty. URA returned no cell for this district x floor level x floor-area band. The pull requested every district, level and band for every quarter, and URA shows a data point only where at least 3 rental contracts were signed — so this is disclosure suppression, and it cannot distinguish a market with one or two leases from one with none. It is never zero rent. There is no district band to place here, and inventing one from a neighbouring district would be a number wearing the wrong district's name.
| day | window | mode | dir | taps/day | n |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| weekday | am-peak | bus | in | 1,870 | 207 |
| weekday | am-peak | bus | out | 464 | 207 |
| weekend-holiday | am-peak | bus | in | 869 | 72 |
| weekend-holiday | am-peak | bus | out | 333 | 72 |
| weekday | pm-peak | bus | in | 805 | 207 |
| weekday | pm-peak | bus | out | 1,612 | 207 |
| weekend-holiday | pm-peak | bus | in | 818 | 72 |
| weekend-holiday | pm-peak | bus | out | 849 | 72 |
| weekday | all-day | bus | in | 5,177 | 207 |
| weekday | all-day | bus | out | 4,319 | 207 |
| weekend-holiday | all-day | bus | in | 4,634 | 72 |
| weekend-holiday | all-day | bus | out | 3,727 | 72 |
this subzone, all trades: BUS taps only per gazetted day (no rail is counted in this number) a census: all 9 sources known in this subzone answered
lta.pv.per-day:carried · subzone grain · month to 2026-07-31 · 2026-07-31 is the last day of the month LTA's passenger-volume table covers. The figure is a per-day rate over that whole month's taps, so it names the month, not a day anything was counted
| nearest, beyond the serving line | taps/day | from the corner’s edge |
|---|---|---|
| BUKIT GOMBAK (NS3) | 42,033 | 1,145m to Exit C |
ENTRIES AND EXITS SUMMED on an average weekday, all day. Not boardings. NO station stands within 400m of this corner, which is the radius at which we are willing to say one serves it. The nearest is named anyway, with the same straight-line measurement to its nearest published exit. A corner 20m past the line is not a corner with no railway, and publishing nothing there would be a binary answer to a continuous question. It is not a walking route, and no claim is made that this station serves this corner.
lta.pv.per-day · station grain · month to 2026-07-31 · 2026-07-31 is the last day of the month LTA's passenger-volume table covers. The figure is a per-day rate over that whole month's taps, so it names the month, not a day anything was counted
| nearest, outside this corner | stalls | status | distance |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bukit Batok West Hawker Centre | 22 | Existing (new) | 516m |
NEA lists NO hawker centre in this corner. Its registry is a census of 129 centres, each carrying its own point, and every one of them was placed (none fell outside a subzone), so this is a measured zero rather than a corner nobody looked at. The nearest is Bukit Batok West Hawker Centre, 516m from this corner's edge, and it is named for the same reason the nearest station is: a centre just over the boundary is not a centre that does not exist, and a straight "none here" would be a binary answer to a continuous question. Straight-line to its published point, not a walking route, and no claim is made that it sits in this corner.
nea.ssot.hawker-centres · subzone grain · as of 2026-03-13 · 2026-03-13 is NEA's own last-refresh stamp (FMEL_UPD_D) on the freshest row in this registry extract, not a survey date. A measured zero is only as current as the census behind it, and this is that census's date
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this subzone's own 2025 household mix. The only local input is the mix; lo/hi are the spread across the kinds of household living here, not an error bar
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
NOT A MEASUREMENT: national HES 2023 per-household spend by dwelling type, weighted by this place's own household mix. The only local input is the mix. lo/hi are the lowest and highest per-dwelling-type spends present here — the spread across kinds of household, not an error bar.
hes2023.dwelling-bridge · subzone grain · 2023-12-31 is the last day of 2023, the year SingStat's Household Expenditure Survey 2023 reports its dollars for: a survey year wearing a day so it can be ordered, printed at year grain, and not a day anything was measured at this corner; the dwelling mix that weights it here carries its own vintage in provenance
| share of households | |
|---|---|
| with no employed person, outside the figure above | 11% |
| earning over S$10,000 | 54.7% |
| earning over S$20,000 | 7.8% |
6,400 earning households of 7,300 in this planning area. PLANNING-AREA grain, not this corner, and EMPLOYMENT income only. The middle figure is the BAND the median earning household falls in. No average is computed, because the top band is "$35,000 & Over" and has no upper value to average. Households with no employed person are outside the denominator, which is SingStat's own convention for income from work; their share is published beside it, because a retiree household is not a poor household, it is one this instrument does not see.
singstat.ghs2025.household-income-bands · planningArea grain · as of 2025-06-30
not_yet_wired: a gap on OUR side of the pipeline. no home-prices fact, valued or absent, reached this subzone, and an unexplained gap is ours by rule
no_sale_placed_in_window: a zero of placed sales. The register covers this corner's blocks and none of their sales placed here in the window. no HDB resale transaction places in this subzone in the window
| flat type | flats |
|---|---|
| 1-room | 0 |
| 2-room and studio | 1,016 |
| 3-room | 396 |
| 4-room | 1,541 |
| 5-room, executive and multi-generation | 898 |
| rental flats | 16 |
HDB's own block register, summed over the 40 blocks placed inside this corner. It is a count of doors by kind, not an estimate, and not a count of the people behind them.
a census: all 3 sources known in this subzone answered
sfa.trackrecord.by-postal:carried · subzone grain · 2026-08-16 is the night SFA's register was read: the crawl receipt where one was written, else the observation stamp a snapshot froze from the file's write time. Not a date SFA gives; a carried total wears the newest night among its postals
a census: all 10 sources known in this subzone answered
hdb.tender.est-size.shop:carried · subzone grain · 2026-07-15 is the day bids closed on the newest of the 10 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-08-14. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it
a census: all 9 sources known in this subzone answered
hdb.tender.est-size.shop:carried · subzone grain · 2026-03-12 is the day bids closed on the newest of the 9 tenders pooled here; the oldest of them closed 2025-11-04. Each part wears its own tender's closing day, the one date both HDB tender files give, so this row spans more than one tender round and no single day describes it
a census: all 1 sources known in this subzone answered
hdb.tender.est-size.clinic:carried · subzone grain · 2025-11-04 is the day bids closed on HDB's tender for this unit: the one date both tender files give every row, awarded or not; the award itself is dated nowhere in them, and this is not the day the notice was read and not the day the tenant opened
| largest use classes | share of zoned land |
|---|---|
| road | 25% |
| park | 23% |
| residential | 21% |
Counted as shopfront-capable: commercial, commercial & residential, residential with commercial at 1st storey, white, business park - white, hotel.
ZONING IS PERMISSION, NOT SUPPLY. This is the share of this corner's zoned land whose use class can hold a shopfront (COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL & RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL WITH COMMERCIAL AT 1ST STOREY, WHITE, BUSINESS PARK - WHITE, HOTEL) under the Master Plan 2025 with amendments. Not floor space that exists, not units for rent, and not a promise any particular unit is licensed for your trade. A low share means the plan gives a shopfront little room here; a high share does not mean anything is built. Each parcel is counted whole in the subzone holding its centroid.
ura.masterplan2025.landuse · subzone grain · published 2026-09-21 · 2026-09-21 is the day URA published this layer on data.gov.sg (Amendment to Master Plan 2025 Land Use Layer, d_7a03324bed531cdff76a16239b0e84e1, URA's stamp 2026-09-21T13:51:24+08:00): the Master Plan 2025, gazetted on 2025-12-01, with URA's amendments in it. A zone URA changes after this date is not in this figure until URA publishes the layer again and this figure is rebuilt
a census: all 3 sources known in this subzone answered
sfa.trackrecord.by-postal:carried · subzone grain · 2026-08-16 is the night SFA's register was read: the crawl receipt where one was written, else the observation stamp a snapshot froze from the file's write time. Not a date SFA gives; a carried total wears the newest night among its postals
a census: all 7 sources known in this subzone answered
ecda.centres.licensed:carried · subzone grain · 2026-08-10 is the newest register update among the 7 postals pooled here; the oldest part's newest row was updated 2025-10-07. Each part wears its own rows' stamp, so this count spans more than one update day and no single day describes it
a census: all 1 sources known in this subzone answered
avs.vet.licensed:carried · subzone grain
a census: all 35 sources known in this subzone answered
sfa.trackrecord.by-postal:carried · subzone grain · 2026-08-16 is the night SFA's register was read: the crawl receipt where one was written, else the observation stamp a snapshot froze from the file's write time. Not a date SFA gives; a carried total wears the newest night among its postals
a census: all 3 sources known in this subzone answered
a licence overlay, not a trade: a minimart and a petrol station both hold one
hsa.tobacco.retail-licence:carried · subzone grain · 2026-08-07 is HSA's refresh stamp on the register file (data.gov.sg lastUpdatedAt), not a licence date: every row on the register is a licence window, and _meta.build.tobacco counts how many had lapsed or not yet begun at that stamp
a census: all 1 sources known in this subzone answered
a certification overlay across many trades
muis.halal:carried · subzone grain
| quantity | code | side | rows |
|---|---|---|---|
| people.count | suppressed_at_source | theirs | 6 |
| householdSpend.monthly | suppressed_at_source | theirs | 20 |
| commercialRent.psm | not_published | theirs | 1 |
Every absent fact carries a reason and a side. "Ours" is our pipeline's backlog; "theirs" is the publisher withholding. Only one of them is fixable by us.